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The principles include: adherence to best practices, reducing risk, limiting physical stress to the carrier, optimizing workflow efficiency to maximize throughput, keeping signal flow simple, attaining the highest level of accuracy possible, maintaining freedom to make subjective judgment decisions again in the future, and maintaining the physical carrier. We will discuss specific practices in the workflow such as: using a microscope to evaluate grooves, cleaning discs by hand, creating different file types and clearly defining the role they play in long-term preservation, using a simple signal chain, choosing a stylus, choosing a de-emphasis equalization curve, dealing with tracking problems, and the use of custom-made enclosures. 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The principles include: adherence to best practices, reducing risk, limiting physical stress to the carrier, optimizing workflow efficiency to maximize throughput, keeping signal flow simple, attaining the highest level of accuracy possible, maintaining freedom to make subjective judgment decisions again in the future, and maintaining the physical carrier. We will discuss specific practices in the workflow such as: using a microscope to evaluate grooves, cleaning discs by hand, creating different file types and clearly defining the role they play in long-term preservation, using a simple signal chain, choosing a stylus, choosing a de-emphasis equalization curve, dealing with tracking problems, and the use of custom-made enclosures. 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We need to we need to stay on schedule. I'm not a presenter. I'm the master of ceremonies. So we're gonna start off with a methodology for preserving content on lacquer discs. And I'm happy to introduce my colleagues at Indiana University, Dan Figure, L.A., who is an audio engineer at the Media Preservation and Digitization Initiative at IU. He's been a recording engineer for 15 years and worked in live, sound and recording studios across the country. Probably made some records that, you know, and he joined MGP in 2015, where he specializes in wax cylinders, lacquer discs and open real tape. Motza with Linsky as an audio engineer at Media Preservation and Digitization President initiative as well. And she specializes in the digitization of wax cylinders and lacquer discs and tapes. So is so similar, so specialization. She has been on the ask board but is ending her tenure this year, but will be continue to be a member of the technical committee and the Wire Recording Subcommittee and Jonathan Richardson, also from MDI and from IU here is a media preservation specialist and in his spare time he is a musician playing bass guitar and is an avid record collector. So I'll turn the podium over to them and there should be a fascinating presentation. Thank you, Conrad. Thank you. Welcome, everyone. My name is Dan Figure Relly. And today, along with my team here, we are going to talk to you about our methodology for digitizing the lacquer discs. But first, a little bit about us. MVP is a mass digitization project. It was announced by IU President Michael McRobbie back in 2013. We were charged with digitizing all significant audio and video holdings across all IU campuses by the bicentennial in 2020 to help us with this gargantuan task. IU partnered along with Memnon, who performs the lion's share of digitization using parallel transfer workflows on the IU side. We had all the original or I'm sorry, on the I use side. We handle the fragile formats and the problem items using a one to one workflow. Our original goal of digitizing two hundred and eighty thousand items has already been exceeded. As of this week, we were closer to about three hundred and twenty thousand items. Thus far, we have digitized approximately a thousand aluminum discs and over 5000 lacquers. So as we're doing this work, it's essential that we adhere to a lot of the standards and practices that were developed in Yasa TCO four. And in sound directions. And we've integrated a lot of these key principles from these publications into our daily procedures and workflow. And we're gonna go over a couple of those today. Adherence to best practices, reducing and limiting risk, optimizing our workflow efficiency, attaining the highest level of accuracy as possible, maintaining the the freedom to make subjective judgment decisions in the future, and then also maintaining the physical carrier or in other words, do no harm. So, yeah, not not too good, is it? We have to take action now to combat the detrimental effect of degradation to these lacquer desks. As you may know, many of these lacquer coated disks will eventually succumb to plasticizer sedation, which in turn is going to lead to cracking and delimitation and ultimately loss of content, which we never want. So since this is a time sensitive process, the sooner that these disks can be digitized, the better. For we can do that, though. We have to know exactly what we're dealing with. Right. So this is a pile of lacquers that was discovered in an old attic of I use Franklin Hall and we may be hearing a little bit about these disks a little bit later from Patrick and Jonathan Bell to say that there was a lot of curiosity about these disks when they were first discovered they were stacked in the attic and left alone for over 50 years. So how did these disks go from a dusty attic to being preserved, cataloged, digitized and stored properly and eventually into an art presentation? So it requires a few steps. What I'm getting at and the first one is to our smart team who will carefully go through each item one at a time, strategic media access resource team. They will ensure that our items are properly cataloged and transported very carefully and properly. They're given instructions on what materials to prepare for us. And then also price process items one at a time into our physical object database. These items are assigned a unique barcode that will remain with the item throughout the entire digitization process. They're grouped into batches, loaded into bins, packed with foam and carefully delivered oversize at MDI. In the first place that they're going to go is to Jonathan Richardson, who's not going to take you through the process of preparing these disks for digitization. OK, one wants the disks are received. We need to identify the substrate and determine the appropriate course of action. If the disk is glass based, that will be digitized first to reduce that risk of losing any content. In the case of a crack formation, if it's aluminum based, the disk will go to the next stage of preppers preparation, which is label imaging. The focus here is to capture the label information for future researchers. Each disk receives an image of both sides to accompany the digital audio files. Delicate materials such as glass based or D laminating disks may require us to save this step for post digitization. Next e each deaths receives an individual inspection at this point. I'm looking for problems that may interfere with digitization, such as cracking, warping delamination or plasticizer exaltation. Also, at this stage we are taking a group measurement looking through the microscope. We can see here the top of the groove. A measurement is taken between these two points using a reticle in the eyepiece of the microscope. And this is the bottom of the groove. This example measured out to 120 microns for the top group and 30 microns for the bottom. We then enter this information into our stylus calculator. Estella's calculator was provided to us by Eric Jacobs at the audio archive. Here is where we enter the measurement for the top of the groove and then put the measurement for the bottom groove here. And this area here tells us what stylist's size to suggest to the engineers. Ultimately, the engineers will make the stylus selection with their ears, but they will use this suggested measurement for me as a good starting point. Once this has been diagnosed and measured, it's ready to be cleaned. All recordists are cleaned by hand, one at a time to ensure the best possible results. As a rule, glass discs are digitized prior to cleaning to reduce the risk of cracking or breaking after the transfer. The glass. This will be. We'll get a careful cleaning and be digitized once more when cleaning the desk. We first give them an initial rinse with the ionized D mineralized purified water to knock off any of the surface dirt that might be on it for cleaning leaves a mixture of the turgid tall 15 as three and turn to tall 15 s9. One is oil based and the other is water based. We like the term to talk because it's an inexpensive, it's very inexpensive and a little bit goes a long way. We use ammonia for removing the plasticizer exaltation and we mix the ammonia separately from the Terje Tall with an extremely low ammonia to water ratio. We only apply the ammonia mixture to discs that are showing the plasticizer expedition. A disc may receive two to four cleaning's unless it's showing signs of stubborn boops. A stubborn exhortation. As Dan said earlier, our goal is to do no harm. But we also want to get the best transfer possible. So if you're having difficult if if if I'm having difficulty removing the expedition, we may try transferring it first and then reevaluate later, reevaluate later to see if we can get a better transfer. We use two different cleaning brushes, one for cleaning and one for rinsing to keep the labels dry. We use a device called a label saver. The one pictured here is made by a company called Groove Master. In addition to keeping the label from getting wet, the handle allows us to also safely move the disc around without touching the Grube area. Other marketing, such as Greece pencil, can be removed safely by using a small amount of naphtha or lighter fluid on the concentrated area, followed by another cleaning with the turgid tile mixture to remove the lighter fluid and the residue from the pencil. The disk is then cleaned on Keith Monk's machine, then placed into a bamboo drying rack for at least 20 minutes, allowing any remaining water to evaporate. Once a desk is cleaned and dried, it receives a new acid free envelope. The old sleeve gets discarded. However, we may need to keep the old sleeve if there's any information on it that the owner of the desk may need to retain. If a disk shows any sign of delamination, we place it into a custom-made box that was created for us by the IU Library Preservation Department. This desk was designed to float and never touch the disk surface. These two cardboard circles placed on both sides of the disk label create that floating action. Plastic washers are then screwed into place, keeping the disk immobilized. And if anyone's interested, I actually have one of these boxes with me. So let me know. And finally, the disks are delivered to the audio preservation studio where they audio engineer begins to digitization. I'm gonna pass it on to Melissa with Linskey. We'll discuss playback. So now we're going to talk about the equipment that we use for playback and DPR uses techniques ASPEY fifteen Direk Drive turntables for all of our disk transfers. They're outfitted with a semi thirty twelve hour tone arms and we have Stanton 500 and Shaw and forty four cartridges with a variety of different shape and size styles by our signal chain is kept as simple as possible to limit the opportunity for interference or noise to be introduced into the signal. The phono levels signal is sent from the turntable to the preamp, then to the Patch Bay, where it is routed to the inputs of our 8D converter. The digital signal is unsent via HCB U to the sound card. So our initial turntable setup must be considered when we're trying to attain the highest quality possible. So first things first is leveling the turntable using a bubble level on the platter with the slip mat removed. And this is something that we check monthly to make sure that we're maintaining the loveliness of the turntable. Next, we consider the vertical tracking angle as it relates to the height of the tone arms pivot. In most playback circumstances, we adjust the height at the pivot so that the tone arm is parallel to the disc. However, we do sometimes need to set it to a position other than parallel to accommodate warped disks. And after that we'll balance the tone, arm and sort the vertical tracking force. Let's start by balancing the tone arm with no tracking force applied. Then we'll set the tone arm to three point seventy five grams as a starting point. And we use a digital stylus force gauge to confirm that setting. And we may need to increase the amount of tracking force for discs with poor tracking. As is the case with many of the field recordings that we work with for Anti's Skate, we start by setting an equal to the vertical tracking force. And if we do have tracking problems, then we'll experiment with increasing or decreasing that value depending on the direction of the problem. Finally, we'll set the cartridge azimuth. The cartridge is adjusted so that the stylus is perpendicular with the playing surface. But again, we may need to adjust this for cases with extreme warpage to avoid having the disc push the stylus off the surface. Cartridge Zenith is set using the distance from the spindle of the turntable to the pivot point on the tone arm. This value varies with various diameters of discs. And with the distribution of grooves on the disc, we figure that out by measuring the distance from the spindle to the innermost groove and the spindle to the outermost groove. And we have this worksheet here which has built-In equations. This is another document that was provided to us by Eric Jacobs. So we plug those two values in and then we get the results there on the left, which is the ideal spindle to pivot point distance to produce the least amount of tracking error. So next we have stylus selection, our starting size, as suggested from the result of the groove measurements done during the prop. From there will select one slightly larger and one slightly smaller stylus and compared the sound of each at a few different places on the desk will then expand our selection and try even larger or smaller stylized. We notice a trend of improving sound quality and either direction, and we record those stylus tests so that we can go back and forth as many times as necessary without causing extra wear. So the factors that we consider when we're choosing a stylus are the quality and loudness of surface noise, the presence of distortion and the desired signal, the frequency, response and dynamic range of the content overall level and how well the styles tracks in the groove. So the preamp that we're using is the TimeStep T.O. one Q designed by Dave Corley and this unit provides two output signals. We first have a two channel direct out that only passes through the phono gains stage and that becomes our preservation master signal. And then we also have a minus some signal that will become our preservation master intermediate. And that obviously goes through all the equalization in the preamp. So the disks that we transfer, our largely field recorded disks with nonstandard equalization. So we'll select playback equalization turnover and Rohloff settings by ear. For each disc, we'll also use a rumble filter if we deem it necessary. So we have our two files. We preserve the two channel preservation master file in order to distinctly preserve the content on both group walls. The majority of our content that we're digitizing is mono. So Preservation Intermediate will be either a model summered or the left or the right groove wall. If one sounds much better than the other. Obviously, if the source is stereo, then we'll have a stereo intermediate as well. So our someday summed output can be created with any ratio of left to right channels using the blood knob. Normally we're looking for the signal maximum in our mono sound output to find that we'll switch something from left plus right to left, minus right. And then we'll actually find the minimum using the blend knob. At that point, we'll switch it back to left plus right. And that equals the signal maximum. Our output gain is adjusted so that digital peaks fall somewhere between minus 12 and minus seven. DPF, US. So for every disc side we make, two or sometimes three different file types. Our preservation master is the two channel, unequal eyes and unedited file. This is the file from which new decisions can be made in the future in terms of equalization and editing or preservation. Master Intermediate is the model summed equalized an edited file. This represents our best judgment in terms of equalization and technical edits, since equalization is subjective. We maintain that first preservation master file to enable future engineers to be able to go back and make a different choice. In most cases, all of our derivatives are made from this file. Sometimes we'll also make a production file. This is for cases where there's something such as a repeating click from a crack and a simple problem like that. We can quickly resolve using isotope D. Cook. And, you know, this obviously provides a great greater listening experience for our end user and not much cost to our productivity. So finally, we arrive at playback, our modus operandi is to capture every groove on the disc as accurately as possible. We are to make sure that no content is missed. After a section of skating or a locked groove, we'll manually reset or advance the stylus in those cases. Editing is done in the digital domain only to the preservation master intermediate so that the resulting audio plays back smoothly for the end user. And next, I'll just mention a few obstacles that we faced during work disk digitization. One thing that we've seen is shown here, which is just the label extending into the grooved area of the disk. Sometimes content is there, sometimes it's not. But we'll use a razor blade to carefully remove part of the label to be able to recover that content. And a more frequent issue that we face is just general tracking problems often have locked grooves or stylus skating. And we resolve that by a combination of adjusting trucking forces and or the trucking force and the anticipate value and also manual stylus manipulation. So the disk in this picture was covered in razor blade cuts, both extending out from the center and around the disc, which greatly interfered with playback. As you can imagine. So, you know, obviously the person that originally made this disc cut it to prevent future playback. You know, probably it was a bad take or something. But we're tasked with recovering everything that we can play. So I had the pleasure of working on this disc and it required a large amount of patience and a lot a lot of manual stylus placement and a heck of a lot of editing after the facts to get it to playback smoothly. I would have to I would have to look it up. I don't. No. OK. So another problem is worse. So a lot of her field recordings are on very thin lacquer disks with very thin metal basses. And you can see the slow motion playback in the video and the stylus is actually losing contact, contact with the groove. So for something like this, we would experiment with tracking force, manual styles, manipulation and also slow speed playback. So our physical object database is where we enter the technical metadata for the transfer. This ensures that our quality control team knows what to listen for and that we have accurate documentation for future research. So we'll note engineer data and say signal change the speed and stylus use. Turn over, roll off a normal filter values and the amount of time it took to digitize the display. Amateur based material and other physical characteristics. Presence of crack's oxidation or dissemination. And we also have a free-form comments section and we start to note anything unusual about the recording or areas where we may have had tracking problems. And if we do make a production master, we'll also include the processing steps that we use to create that file. So after a digital digitization is complete, all of the physical items are returned to their collection owners. Although the items have been digitally preserved, it is still a priority of the university to retain the physical carrier in optimal storage conditions. And this is a picture of our auxillary library facility, a U. Likewise, the digital files and metadata are sent for long term monitored storage at the Scholarly Data Archive, which is what you see here. And I'm going to pass it back to Dan to wrap it up. You, Melissa. So just to recap really quick, our workflow is based on these guiding principles that shape our entire process by adhering to the best practices, were following established workflow concepts here from transportation, cleaning desks by hand. Measuring grooves will basically allow us to reduce and limit risk by adapting a division of labor. We can start by adapting a division of labor between preparing and digitization or optimizing our workflow efficiency to attain the highest level of accuracy possible. Each disk is handled very carefully throughout the entire process, and our equipment is carefully calibrated by creating a preservation master file. This is going to allow future engineers to make their own choices regarding playback equalization and technical matters. And, of course, to do everything necessary to maintain the integrity of the physical carrier. So now we'd just like to close with a short montage of some audio clips from various lacquer discs that we've digitized that MDI. An interesting note. The last example is a Hoagy Carmichael lacquer disc that was discovered in that pile of old discs in that attic that we saw earlier. So if you have something similar like that, you never know what she may find. And you never know how good it can sound. So thank you from all of us at Indiana University. And please enjoy. It's a different kind of a science fiction story. Ray, would you give the folks the gist of it or the theme of this Martian Chronicle? Well, I've tried to put myself ahead about 50 years and see what the problems would be. For instance, you or I or any of the people on this world suddenly went off to Mars and how lonely the people would be and the problems of transporting cities up there and settling in and getting started. I'm trying to do this from a serious and literate standpoint, and I hope I've been successful. We'll find out. And it wasn't until the next year, after long months of study and experimenting, that Alexander Graham Bell spoke his now very famous words over the first telephone. Mr. Watson, come here. I want you, Mr. Watson here. Mr. Bell, speak over the telephone. Yes, indeed he did, Jane. And, you know, at that time, they used a telephone with about the same things in it as our modern telephones have in them. You mean first the air was set in motion by Mr. Bell's words. And then they were changed into electrical vibrations by the carbon particles in the diet. The diaphragm, Johnny. That's right. Got. Sherlock Holmes looks exactly like William Gillette. Sounds like him, too, were afraid and hope devoutly that the Mercury Theater and the radio will take none of the glamor from the beloved fable of Baker Street, from the pipe and the violin and the hideous purple dressing gown from the needle and the cigar on the window ledge and the dry final famous lines. Elementary, my dear. Watson Elementary. A mere child's play of deduction. Well, a monkey herd swing down a ruling. You got. Got bit by the BWF, got the ball on the elbows back with the green. He went in to his dad's seeing and Sukardi yackety back kicking beat. Bob said, you stop. You ain't exactly on the back. Look at me. Mandy Shuffle Lebaran. I've got the monkey ball with me. I mean the favorite ball of the jack in the same. So the monkey made a coconut. Tom-Tom found an old drum that belonged to the deuce. By the middle of the week, Gary native was speaking about the monkey and his Madison. He beat licks with the sticks to a record by thick steel is round and was the talk of all the Congo. He added the new plan that kazoo and a jug then rounded out the ball. One day a missionary with a Bible and everything riding on a donkey through the jungle. King beat Bob Chavan. Hey, stop. I know a way that we can make a bundle so we don't let me see the area with the Bible, an area about the monkey and the way he made drums. But he added he had a little bit of bad luck and he like to sell a monkey to Frank Buckley. Okay, said the man with the Bible in the hand. If a deal is according to Ohio. I seem to got a pain. Well, not if you promise not to bother me oh about it. But it came down to the morning to see the big hit. Make a buck on it. But the moment I can get berated about that. No, not at all. It was just another monkey game. He said that by a lot of Freeman and Eversmann thought the little mesentery with the Bible lingonberry same thing as the Benson body. You and. So I think we got time for a couple of questions. If anyone hasn't. OK. As a performer, an announcer for Philadelphia Public Schools, Studios' school hours, which last it's all around 1970. I left in 68. We don't have more than maybe two or three programs that a couple of my friends held on to. And they don't have any of the ones that I was in, though. But, you know, so we had the same situation of we've we've asked that the Philadelphia public schools that ran it. They look at us like we have three heads and they're not three tape heads either. So. So it's a situation all over. I don't know why the educational systems discarded all of that stuff. Did you and they used it for the thrill of the studio schoolhouse was on the air for like 35 years. They were they announced at the beginning of each episode. Well, we we hope some will turn up. Have to scurrah those addicts. Getting back to the technical side of this presentation. How often do you check where on your styluses? We don't really have a way of doing that at this point. So if you have a method for checking where we'd like to hear it. Look at him. Thank you. Anything else? OK, well, thanks, everyone, for coming. Thanks for the panelists. Fascinating presentation. 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