{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/pc2t43k78s/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Stewarding Ethnographic Sound Collections"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/019/original/ARSC_Full_Logo_RGB_K.jpg?1605438091","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Burdette, Alan (Presenter)","McClanahan, Allison (Presenter)","Hohn, Tami (Presenter)","Shankar, Guha (Presenter)","Vallier, John (Presenter)","Shimoda, Yuri (Moderator)","Hockstein, Dan (Moderator)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2022-11-17 (Created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIt began in 1890 with Jesse Walter Fewkes, a zoologist by training, trekking to Maine with a cylinder recorder. His mission? To \"capture\" sounds from the Passamaquoddy Tribe.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThe 31 wax cylinders he recorded as part of this expedition are regarded as the first ethnographic field recordings. In the 130 plus years since then, anthropologists, ethnomusicologists, and linguists have generated troves of sound recordings documenting the music, languages, and culture of people from around the globe. Motivations have been many. Some recordists were spurred on by a desire to \"salvage\" or save sounds being erased by colonial encroachment and resulting genocides. Others were concerned with the \"cultural gray-out\" brought about by the popular commercialization and feared homogenization of music.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eWhatever the motivation, many of these collections were deposited in European and North American sound archives. Framed another way, these sounds were extracted from communities of origin and housed in locations that were, practically speaking, inaccessible to many, including those heard on the recordings.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eWith this discussion, archivists, curators, and educators from the Library of Congress, Indiana University's Archives of Traditional Music, and the University of Washington in Seattle, will discuss the challenges and opportunities of working with such collections. From murky ethical and rights related issues to the way in which such recordings can stoke Indigenous language revitalization projects, please join us for a discussion about both the perils and promise of ethnographic sound archives today.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eAlan Burdette\u003c/strong\u003e has been the Director of the Indiana University Libraries Archives of Traditional Music since 2007 where he is responsible for day-to-day operations and long-term planning. He was part of the planning team for IU's large scale media preservation effort (MDPI). He formerly served as the Executive Director of the Society for Ethnomusicology and as Director of the EVIA Digital Archive Project, and Associate Director of IU's Institute for Digital Arts and Humanities. He holds a Ph.D. in Folklore and Ethnomusicology from Indiana University, where he currently also serves as an adjunct professor.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eGuha Shankar\u003c/strong\u003e is Folklife Specialist at the American Folklife Center, Library of Congress, Washington, D.C. At the Center he develops a range of multi-media productions, documentation initiatives and public outreach programs. He serves as co-director of the Civil Rights History Project, an initiative to document, preserve and provide access to born-digital oral histories with activists in the Black Freedom Struggle. He is the coordinator of Ancestral Voices, a collections management and co-curation project undertaken in collaboration with indigenous communities. Shankar conducts workshops in ethnographic research methods and skills-based training in field documentation in a range of communities and institutions. His research interests and publications include ethnographic media production, intangible cultural heritage and intellectual property issues in indigenous communities, and cultural politics and performance in the Caribbean. Shankar earned his Ph.D. in 2003 from the Department of Anthropology, University of Texas at Austin, with a concentration in Folklore and Public Culture.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eAllison McClanahan\u003c/strong\u003e is the Collections and Cataloging Librarian at the Archives of Traditional Music, where she is responsible for managing public and technical services. Her duties include reference, library maintenance, cataloging, collection management, and outreach. She also conducts tours of the ATM and instruction sessions for courses relevant to the scope of ATM collections. Allison's research interests include representation and description of indigenous and marginalized groups in cataloging and description systems, instruction using ethnographic primary sources, audiovisual and ethnographic field collection cataloging, and the intersections of public and technical services in libraries and archives. She received her Master of Library Science with specializations in music librarianship and archives \u0026amp; records management from Indiana University Bloomington in 2016.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eTami Hohn\u003c/strong\u003e (Puyallup) is an Assistant Teaching Professor at the University of Washington (UW) Department of American Indian Studies. In this role she teaches the Southern Lushootseed language and acts as the first Native Knowledge In Residence Coordinator for UW's Center for American Indian and Indigenous Studies (CAIIS). Hohn joined the Department of American Indian Studies informally in Autumn 2017 by teaching free, drop-in language learning and conversation sessions with her colleague Nancy Jo Bob. By the following Autumn, 2018, Hohn was teaching a year-long for-credit course in Salish Language. More information about Tami Hohn can be found here.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eJohn Vallier \u003c/strong\u003eis Head of the Ethnomusicology Archives at the University of Washington (UW) in Seattle. In this role he attempts to steward a collection of over 50,000 recordings and films documenting global, regional, and local music traditions. At UW he also teaches on such topics as remix studies, Seattle music, and the colonial legacy of ethnomusicology archives. 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And let's just, as we get settled again, great to see so many folks from all over joining us today. We'll get started now. My name's Dan Hockstein. Today I'm in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Chapel Hill sits on the land of the Occaneechi, Shakori, Eno, and Sissipahaw peoples. I want to recognize the land and sovereignty on those nations and which I'm fortunate enough to be calling in from today. \n\nYuri Shimoda","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=8.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hello, and I am Yuri Shimoda. Coming to you from Tovangar, the traditional, ancestral and unceded territory of the Gabrielino-Tongva peoples, also known as West Los Angeles, California. Dan and I are co-chairs of the ARSC, Education and Training Committee. \n\nDan Hockstein","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=45.0,65.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you're not familiar with the Association of Recorded Sound Collections, thanks for joining us. ARSC is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the preservation and study of sound recordings in all genres of music and speech, in all formats and from all periods. ARSC is unique in bringing together private individuals and institutional professionals, everyone with a serious interest in recorded sound. This ARSC webinar series is funded by a grant from the National Recording Preservation Board administered by the Council on Library and Information Resources. \n\nYuri Shimoda","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=65.0,104.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And today's event will consist of presentations by our guest speakers, a moderated discussion followed by a Q\u0026A period. If you do have a question, please click on the Q\u0026A box to type in your query. We have enabled Live Captioning, which you can turn on by clicking the CC live transcript button at the bottom of your screen. The webinar is being recorded and will be available at ARSC Aviary site in the coming weeks. I'll go ahead and slip the link to the ARSC Aviary platform in the chat. Thank you all for joining us for Stewarding Ethnographic Sound Collections. Our speakers today are amazing colleagues from all across the country, including Alan Burdette and Allison McClanahan from Indiana University Libraries, Archives of Traditional Music, Tami Hohn and John Vallier of the University of Washington and Guha Shankar of the American Folklife Center. Library of Congress. Welcome to all. Let's begin with Alan and Allison. \n\nAlan Burdette","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=104.0,200.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hello, everyone. We're very glad to be participating in this webinar and we are going to tell you some things about what we do here at the Archives of Traditional Music. Before we start into our presentation. We wish to acknowledge and honor the Indigenous communities native to our region and recognize that Indiana University Bloomington is built on Indigenous homelands and resources. We recognized Lenape, Bodwewadmik, and saawanwa people as past, present and future caretakers of this land. So we begin with a little bit of history about our collections. The Archives of Traditional Music is one of the largest university based Ethnographic sound archives in the United States. There are over 115,000 audio visual recordings, as well as photographs, manuscripts, field notes, transcriptions, translations, ephemera and memorabilia. An important part of this discussion we're having today has to do with the history of not only our collections, but all of our collections. And in our case, the collection was started in 1936 by George Hertzog at Columbia University. And then when he came to Indiana University in 1948, he brought the collection with him. And much of that material came from early 20th century anthropologists trained by Franz Boas. And of course, many of these anthropologists were working in a kind of. salvaged ethnography and various linguistic endeavors with native North American groups that at the time weren't about giving back to those communities per se. It was just about doing research and in the terms we would use today, extracted in nature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=200.0,334.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The collections at ATM are international in scope. They include at least we divide them up by field recordings, commercial recordings and broadcast recordings. In large terms, about half of the collection are field recordings. The other half are commercial. There's over 300 languages represented. Over half of those are endangered or moribund languages. And of course many of those are for languages of Indigenous groups, not only in North America but around the world. We serve a variety of disciplines, a constellation of disciplines centered around ethnomusicology and folklore, as well as anthropology, linguistics and popular music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=334.0,385.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If we look at our mission, we're about collecting and preserving music and oral traditions from around the world. We are here to serve faculty and students at Indiana University, but we also serve an international community of scholars and patrons and the communities that whose cultural heritage is represented within our holdings. And we see it as our responsibility to make those materials available to mean particularly those whose cultural heritage is represented within those collections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=385.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If we look at some important things about the collection, there are seven collections at ATM that are on the National Recording Registry of the Library of Congress. We hold what are the earliest known recordings from Mexico, Siberia, the Philippines and many Indigenous peoples of North America. Within our holdings, we do have a significant amount of Native North American collections. Many of those made before 1950. We also have things like the Hoagy Carmichael Collection and a large number of collections from the African continent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=421.0,469.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On the matter of stewardship, I just want to say a few words about how we think about the notion of stewardship. A steward, of course, is a helper and a caretaker and with regard to these collections, we don't see ourselves as owners. We're working in a transitional period where First Nations groups are increasingly more active and organized about assuming greater control of the audio visual artifacts of their cultural history. Some groups will rightly take over this stewardship, and some will leave it in the hands of outsider archives like ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=469.0,508.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For us, stewardship is about offering expertize and in a range of areas, in the service of communities and individuals, we can't change the manner in which these artifacts were created and acquired. We can't change how inaccessible they may have been the source communities decades ago, and we can't change how accessible they may have been in the past to people who shouldn't have had access before appropriate protocols were put into place. What we do in the present is to do our best to serve communities of origin in ways they define and in ways that facilitate their discovery and engagement with the artifacts of their recorded sound heritage in balance with the institutional systems of discovery in which we work. We continually assess the ways we can do this better. One area where work is needed is the nature of discoverability and the terminology that remains as a legacy of ethnocentric and extractive perspectives. But we as archives also need to demonstrate to the larger institutions within which we work that if they are truly committed to diversity, equity and inclusion and social justice, then they will provide the resources that enable good stewardship and to communicate to those larger institutions that we are derelict as stewards if we cannot safeguard and appropriately describe and disseminate these materials. So now I'm going to turn things over to Allison McClanahan, our Librarian, who's going to give some particular information about patrons and some of the work we've been doing here recently. \n\nAllison McClanahan","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=508.0,616.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. So I'm going to talk a little bit about the types of patrons that we serve here at the ATM. By and large, we serve a lot of IU faculty and students, and those are undergrads and graduate students as well as PhD candidates. But we also serve scholars and researchers globally. So from all over the world, from a really wide range of disciplines, because of that really wide discipline scope that we have within our holdings. We also serve musicians in traditional genres who are trying to find recordings that contain those genres that may or may not be well documented in other places and then also what we're talking about today, Indigenous communities and I've got a graph on the next slide that will break this down a little bit more. But then we also have patrons who are wanting to use materials here at the ATM to make their own kind of products, for lack of a better word, so films and documentaries and also other institutions such as museums who are curating exhibits and displays and that sort of thing. So if we're looking at patrons and reference from the past five years starting in 2017, this is kind of the breakdown of proportions of the types of patrons we're serving to be a reference. So 29.8% of our patrons are external to IU and 21.6% of our patrons are IU students. So those are kind of our biggest parts of the pie. But then if we look at Tribal and Indigenous community members, and that also includes Tribes and Nations themselves, that's about 6% of our reference and in the past five years we've answered thousands of reference questions. So what this breaks down to us is that in terms of digital return to these communities, we've returned over 9000, so close to 10,000 digital files, and we've digitally returned those to First Nations groups. And again, about 6% of all reference interactions are from those North American Tribes and Indigenous Communities or members and about 220 of our patron orders, so that means of those referenced interactions that resulted in someone asking for digital copies or access 220 of those patron orders have been digital return requests from these communities or individuals. So throughout the past of the ATM, a lot of this digital return has been somewhat passive. We get contacted by someone within a Tribe or First Nation or community or someone hears from word of mouth that we have something and they contact us and then we facilitate that request. But when I got here, and I learned that we have our lovely IU NAGPRA Director Dr. Jayne-Leigh Thomas, we began to kind of devise how can we be more effective in how we're serving these communities. So since 2019, we've been working more closely with Dr. Thomas regarding Indigenous collections at the ATM. And what this means for us is that when I get contacted by the Tribe or Nation or Indigenous community that's federally recognized, I'll contact Dr. Thomas and say, \"Hey, we have a request from this group. Have you done any NAGPRA consultation with them yet? If you haven't, I'm happy to put you in contact.\" And then on the flipside of that, when she is getting ready to do a consultation with the Tribe or a Nation, she'll say, \"Hey, what do you have at the ATM for this group?\" That way she's informed when she goes into that consultation, even though recordings don't really fall under NAGPRA proper, we still want to include it in that consultation just of these groups know that this material exists in case they want it. And the caveat being that the NAGPRA Office only consults with federally recognized Tribes so we do have some requests that come from non-federally recognized Tribes, and those aren't kind of involved in that collaboration. But this has been a really great opportunity for us to work with IU's NAGPRA Office, as well as be a little bit more proactive in how we're serving these communities. So one example of this, in 2021, I was contacted by Dr. Thomas saying there might be a visit by Pawnee delegates and lo and behold, in 2022, in the summer, we had a visit by delegations from the Pawnee Nation as well as the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara Nations. So they came to the Archives of Traditional Music and we knew that it was going to be a larger group so we set up spaces in the Hoagy Carmichael Room, which is pictured here with computer stations and large tables, so that they could spread out their documents and manuscripts and things to work with and we also had set up a space in one of our Graduate Assistant studios, and we used that in case they needed to listen to anything that was private or sacred or secret that they didn't want everyone to be able to listen to and so they visited across two days, and we provided them with copies of over 1200 recordings, as well as scans of hundreds of manuscripts, sheets of documentation and so this was a really fruitful kind of example of what we were able to do to find collaborating with IU NAGPRA Office. And so that kind of wraps it up for us. We wanted to make sure that everyone had time and we have a moderated Q\u0026A later. So, happy to talk more when we get to that question. Thank you. \n\nJohn Vallier","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=616.0,1027.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hey, everyone. Thanks for tuning in. My name is John Vallier, and I'm joined by Professor of American Indian studies here at the University of Washington, Tami Hohn and I work in the Ethnomusicology Archives here in Seattle, and I'm going to speak for about 10 minutes about some of my experiences with digital return and repatriation of ethnographic sound recordings, and then turn it over to Tami so that she can speak about how these collections have been of use to her in language revitalization and in the classroom. So let's get started in my share screen. Here we go, I can do this share. All right, so here we go. So let's start with our Land Acknowledgment. The University of Washington, which we do take to heart here, the University of Washington acknowledges the Coast Salish peoples of this land, the land which touches the shared waters of all Tribes and Bands within the Suquamish, Tulalip and Muckleshoot Nations. So Ethnographic Sound Archives, of course, share the same challenges with other sound archives. Typically, it may be always our archives are poorly funded, understaffed, and the sound recordings we attempt to preserve and provide access to are imbued with a host of preservation ills. Sticky shed, binder disintegration and mold, especially here in the Pacific Northwest. Thank goodness for people like Nick Bergh, who I think is here with us today, who would help us out with transferring these recordings. Even when recordings are digitized, we still encounter issues such as delaminating our unplayable CDs, corrupted files, and one of my favorite band names, Bitrot. There are of course, other challenges we share, such as dependance on obsolete playback equipment such as this Ampex 350. But on top of all of this, ethnographic sound collections often have additional layers of rights related and ethical concerns, as noted in the description of this workshop, many of these collections were deposited in European and North American Sound Archives, framed another way, these sounds were extracted from communities of origin and housed in locations that were practically speaking, inaccessible to many, including those heard on the recordings. So I'm the Ethnomusicologist. I record your music, I take it with me back to my institution, deposit it into an archive as part of my collection, with my name on it, where I become the authority on it. While you, the source of the recordings, have little access to these sounds or say in how they are circulated or shared. And you're probably not receiving any potential financial gain either. In order to address these issues and reconnect these collections with communities of origin, Ethnomusicologists have for many decades been actively engaged in repatriating such recordings. Some Ethnomusicologist, such as Robert Garfias, is pictured here on the far right hand side, it's a little pixelated sorry about that. He's the founder of the UW Ethnomusicology Program here in the archives. He made repatriation and still does, a cornerstone of his work beginning back in the 1960s and Lorraine Sakata, another Ethnomusicologist I've had the honor of working with, she's made her recordings from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Tajikistan also. She's also been actively repatriating those. But of course, this hasn't always been the case so there's plenty of work for archivist such as myself to do. So what follows I'm going to go through real quickly is kind of a sampling of some of the repatriation efforts I've been involved with over the past 20 years. I share them in the spirit of showing what worked, what didn't and to highlight just how varied such projects can be. In my experience there is no one size fits all approach to repatriation. When I first worked in this field some 20 years ago, I was highly motivated to do repatriation work, though perhaps a little more naive than I still am. In my first attempt, I wrote and received a Grammy Foundation grant, a grant that is geared to preserve American music, to digitize and then repatriate UCLA's Ethnomusicology Archives Native American Collections. The Grammy folks told me that this was the first grant they were awarded to fund Native American Collections so I was feeling particularly energized. Once funded, we digitized the collections and burned them to Mitsui gold CDs. This was 2003, after all. Among that 225 recordings in the grant or 16 reels of song, of Cherokee songs collected by Ethnomusicologist Charlotte Heth, who was also Cherokee. She helped me get in contact with the correct representatives and also clued me in that we should send at least at least two sets of recordings one to the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma, where she did her fieldwork, and another to the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians in North Carolina. I don't think I would have realized that at the time. Other attempts to reconnect recordings with communities of origin were less successful in that grant. Many times I couldn't get in touch with the original researcher or find representatives from a particular Tribe. As I mentioned earlier, repatriation has been a cornerstone of UW's Ethnomusicology Program and Archives for some time. With Robert Garfias, we have returned copies, recordings and films to communities and traditional music institutions in the Philippines, Korea, Romania and beyond. My predecessor in the archives, Laurel Sercombe, also did much to lay the groundwork for repatriation at UW's Pacific Northwest Indigenous recordings. Since her retirement in 2017, I've tried to follow in her footsteps when possible reuniting recordings with individuals and communities of origin. At times I attempt to be proactive in this work by way of reaching out to Tribes. But more often than not, due to the realities of an already existing backlog of requests for all kinds of recordings, I react to requests for material. Sometimes a group of people want to come to campus to listen to recordings, which is a wonderful opportunity to welcome them here. Other times I merely need to send files. Whatever the case this has been one of the most rewarding parts of my job, and here are just a couple of quotes sent to me from Tribal members after they received recordings from the archives. See,\"You've been a big help with recovering, restoring our grandfather's voice and teachings to my family and the rest of the Tribe. They will be treasured and shared among our people. Hands go up to you and your staff. The incredible help you've been.\" Also the second one, it's really powerful. \"I'm so in love with all these recordings.\" My grandpa now actually sings me to sleep. But this isn't always, it's not to say that all interactions are positive. I've tried, for example, to proactively reunite recordings with a local Tribe. While they wanted the recordings, they also wrote in this last quote here. \"So it only took the University of Washington 100 years to contact us?\" Their frustration is understandable, as there has been a history of Native people being kept away from accessing their own recordings and often songs of their own family members. Back in the day, without a letter of introduction from an academic or a legitimate research project in hand, archival gatekeepers kept indigenous communities away from these collections. In his dissertation on the repatriation of recorded sound from Ethnomusicological archives, Robert Lancefield writes that, \"In referring to sound recordings, repatriation is not generally concerned with the return of a certain physical object.\" While this is generally true, I have been involved with some physical repatriation of sound recordings, video and films that's coming to UW. One involve the film and video copy of the Hopi Snake Dance I came across in another part of the library, if not the archives. I had a big recollection that Hopi dances such as this one shouldn't be seen by outsiders. So I reached out to the Hopi's Tribal Historic Preservation Officer, and they confirmed both the film and the video copy should be removed from our collections and sent to them. So that's what I did. More recently, a regional a member of a regional tribe discovered that their great uncle was recorded on a wax cylinder we have in the library. The songs he sings are sacred and personal, belonging to himself and his family. In other words, we shouldn't have them or provide access to them. Despite some obstacles I think we are all set to repatriate the cylinder to the individual and their family. Lastly, I just wanted to say something about Mukurtu. This is a more deliberate and proactive approach to digital return and repatriation. For the next three years and under the leadership of Professor Kimberly Christen at Washington State University, I'm leading UW's part of a CLIR Hidden Collections grant to digitize and with active input from nine Tribes, collaboratively curating some 70 UW collections that hold materials from their Communities. We will be using Mukurtu, a content management system developed by Kristin as well as metadata protocols, known as traditional knowledge labels or TK labels also developed by Christen and her team. These two tools will in turn give these Tribes the agency to decide how they want these collections to be described and shared, if at all. We are very at the very early stages of creating sound recordings for digitization, but I'm excited to be a part of this project. Okay enough for me. I'd like to turn over the virtual microphone to my friend and colleague Tami Hohn. Let's see, how do we do that Tami? I think I just go this. Stop share. Sorry for narrating my zoom navigation, everyone. So here we go. \n\nTami Hohn","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=1027.0,1690.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, John. [Speaking in Lushootseed] Which translates to someone with the power to awaken. My work is to awaken our language, to revitalize it. I speak the Lushootseed language of the Puget Sound area. And I have been working with our language for 29 years and it's been such a process. I am a member of the Puyallup Tribe and I am from the House of wətač. And so I'm here to share with you some of the history of what we go through in revitalizing our language. What do you do, when the last of your first language speakers pass away? And I'm not just referring to my Tribe. But we are speakers of Southern Lushootseed, which include Suquamish, Duwamish, Snoqualmie, Muckleshoot, Puyallup and Nisqually and Squaxin. We have seven, seven tribes that share this language together and we utilize each other's sources. If I were to search and try to revitalize our language with just the Puyallup tribal preserved language that was historically documented, we wouldn't have very much and would make our work incredibly difficult. And that is the case with all of our Tribes of Southern Lushootseed. And so starting this work I did have discussions and meetings with First Language Speakers. I did have conversations about the dynamics of the language, the importance of language and the importance of teaching. But what I didn't know back then, so many years ago was what to ask from these Speakers, because I was so early in this work. I didn't have the experience, of course, like I have now. I could sit and speak with them for hours and hours on so much I would like to talk with them about. But that takes a lot of time into the language. So when you don't have any First Language Speakers, you have to seek out what was preserved. We have quite a few documents from the 1800s. We have quite a few recordings in the 1900s. And that is what we have. Our recordings many of which John here has in his musicology collection, we have been very fortunate to obtain and utilize these recordings. We pull them up with Adobe Audition, we slow them down, we can analyze exactly, we can hear every bit of the language. Sometimes we'll use Praat and we can identify the language through-- what is the the lower bar there? I can't think of the term for, spectrograms. We can actually see our language through spectrograms. And that's a process that many students that are in linguistics like to study the language that way. Either through sound waves or spectrograms. I teach three courses at the University of Washington, and all of my courses I teach are Southern Lushootseed courses and my goal at the end of their first year with Southern Lushootseed is that they become independent learners that are long term independent, lifelong learners of Southern Lushootseed or Lushootseed in general. Lushootseed comes from the upper Skagit area, lower Skagit, Swinomish all the way down to Tulalip, which is north of Duwamish. It's the same language, but there's a northern and southern dialect. Northern and southern we have different vowel stressors they but they stress second vowel we stress the first vowel. And so understanding those differences becomes important. I honestly don't know where we would be by now if we didn't have our recordings. Our recordings are to us, it's our treasure. So we share that sentiment of appreciation for having what we have. We appreciate and thank our ancestors for leavig language and for trusting people to come into their homes and recording what they speak. We're so fortunate to have that. One of the topics at the University of Washington that I find myself in common, communication with or being asked about is about sharing the materials and especially the recordings, because the recordings are sensitive materials that's the actual Speakers. If you don't have a First Language Speaker that's living, you have to seek out the ones that have passed and it's just it feels like you're sitting right with them. It's that important. And so the sharing aspect becomes a common question. Who can have a say so over these recordings? Should a Tribe, let's say we have our seven Tribes in Southern Lushootseed should sit on one Tribe says \"I don't want my materials to be shared at all.\" It does become a right for that Tribe but if we all share the same language with seven Tribes, then we are taken away from the other six Tribes if we do that. And I advocate that these materials are available with all six. I would actually advocate for all northern and southern because northern and southern Lushootseed are similar enough for us to learn from each other and not restrict from each other. We are part of the Salish language, so being part of the Salish language family means that we should be sharing with all of the Salish territory because there's so much to learn. And one of the reasons I say that is because I have the Aert Kuipers' dictionary and Aert Kuipers did this humongous study on the proto Salish and the original root system of Salish and how we have, our languages are all very similar, but yet. Would they look different? But maybe it's the M and B's versus the N's and D's, the D-Z's versus the Y. There's a lot of similar roots that one language may not use the B's, but use the M's. And when we know that and we understand that and we will replace those M's with B's, we can see it's the same language. Or Aert Kuipers and his research has allowed us to say, okay, this is the original group, but this is their form and this is our form. It's really awesome to have this type of research, and that's why this research is valuable to students and linguists to be able to study and have this whole new perspective on our language. We shouldn't shut the doors to people that have their heads into it and that they can analyze and put and add to the intellect of our language. Tom Hess was a Linguist that worked for many, many years in Lushootseed and created the original Dictionary of Puget Salish, and then it was revised with by Hilbert into the Lushootseed the dictionary. And so we have a great deal of knowledge through that dictionary. And of course, so much work has been done, but there's so much more that's yet to be done. And it would be nice. It would be a beautiful picture to say we all just work magically together. But the truth is, all of our Tribes are hidden into their own piles of work with the language and trying to learn about what they have, about what they need to teach people, about making sense of it all and how to collect that from archives. There's so many universities that housed recordings of Lushootseed. And some documents, and some of them actually get titled wrong. They're not correctly titled, so it's hard to search them out. So it does take going into places and actually look at what's there. You know, dig deep and just find what is actually there to help us. But the goal is to find everything that's preserved in Lushootseed and pull it together and create one source of all of it. It's a huge task, but it's something that we want to start the ball rolling and really get it, really get it going. And if that can spark some more conversations, I think that's great. And hopefully our contact information will be available somewhere. But my contact information, my email is tamihohn@uw.edu. I'll type it here. \n\nYuri Shimoda","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=1690.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thanks so much, Tami. I was just going to suggest you put it in the chat. All right. I'm going to go ahead and\n\nJohn Vallier","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=2355.0,2364.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, thank you, Tami, for sharing. Really appreciate it. Should I introduce Guha? Guha Shankar from the American Folklife Center, the Library of Congress. \n\nGuha Shankar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=2364.0,2382.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alright. Hi. Thank you all. Let me begin. Following the lead of other folks who've been here by acknowledging that Baltimore, where I am speaking from today, is located on the traditional contemporary Homelands of Indigenous people, in particular the unceded Lands of the Piscataway and Susquehannock Peoples. I want to acknowledge as well the contemporary presence of more than 7000 Indigenous people living and thriving in Baltimore City, including the Piscataway, Lumbee and Eastern Band of Cherokee Community members. And I wish to give thanks to the past, present and future stewards of this land and respect all Tribal Nations sovereignty and right to self-determination. Let me begin by sharing the screen, if I could. \n\nGuha Shankar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=2382.0,2439.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And on the topic of thanks, I'll want to also extend my sincere thanks to the organizers of the program in that are doing Education Webinar Series. I'm going to be presenting a case study, if you will, about the Ancestral Voices Initiative of the American Folklife Center, where I work at the Library of Congress. The center, as you may know or perhaps not, is a special division in the library and also a premier repository of photographic audiovisual recordings from around the world. I would be remiss in not noting that while I am nominally the coordinator of the Ancestral Voices Initiative, the accomplishments to date through that initiative rests on the dedicated work of several colleagues at the center and at the Library of Congress, some of whom are here in the audience today. And their expertise ranges from reference and collections research to audio restoration to cataloging to digital assets management to web design to name but a few of the many subjects aspects of this project. The wordle on the screen anybody remember wordle?  I still use them maybe a lot like some of the salient topics that are at play in this initiative and keep them in mind as I'm speaking because while I don't have the time to necessarily elaborate on each and every one of these terms, they are nevertheless fundamental to the development of the project. Unlike my colleagues who are much more diligent about this than myself, I'm going to issue the kind of pay, [inaudible] to the American Folklife Center Library Congress's holdings. I will have to save that for another time and in the interest of time I'm going to move over that. And I'm going to talk more specifically about Ancestral Voices. And in order to do so, to figure out what it is and what the initiative seeks to the contemporary moment, we need to step back in time about 40 plus years of the Federal Cylinder Project or the FCP, as I'll refer to it, which the American Folklife Center undertook between 1977 and 1987. That was about a year after we were established in the center as a Special Unit at the library. The goal of FCP was to preserve and provide access to historic and fragile field recordings recorded on wax cylinders, many dating back to the late 19th century. Hence you'll see that note to Jesse Walter Fewkes's 1890 Passamaquoddy recordings, which are in the main the focus of my talk today. The project gathered together thousands of such historical recordings that were held not only at the library, but also in national and international repositories at universities and in private collections. The aim was to produce catalog records, preserve the audio on reel-to-reel tape those of us young enough to remember, reel-to-reel as a preservation medium, raise your hands, and make the recordings available to communities of origin. So here you see Folklorist and Audio Technician Erika Brady undertaking preservation duplication of cylinder recordings at LC's studios this is back about 1980 and in particular she and other staff members, when we were talking to the federal cylinder project focused on some 9000 wax cylinder recordings of Native American cultural expressions. And once we had preserved them onto a tape, then returned copies of the audio on audio cassettes to the communities of origin. At the center, and now viewed this work as a crucial means of working with and assisting indigenous communities with their efforts of linguistic maintenance, cultural revival and also an reclamation of their recorded cultural heritage through site visits to communities, FCP staff returned copies of the wax cylinder recordings to over 100 sovereign nations. So that was back then. Moving forward in time, the library began developing Ancestral Voices as a successor initiative to the Federal Cylinder Project some time in 2013. This was a mandate by then Librarian of Congress James Billington. And in keeping with the kind of precepts of the federal cylinder project, Ancestral Voices is also a collaborative initiative with communities of origin. This time, the Passamaquoddy of Maine. On the screen, you will see two other entities that are involved in this initiative. They're central to the project, as a matter of fact. And John Vallier already referred to one of them, and this is Washington State University Center for Digital Scholarship and Curation. Under the guidance of the leadership of Kim Christen has developed and maintains Mukurtu content management system. And then also, another important player in this enterprise, in this collaborative venture is New York University. And Jane Anderson, who is anthropologist and legal scholar as well, who worked with the Mukurtu, a CMS to develop and maintain the traditional attribution labels and more about both of those things in just a few seconds. So Ancestral Voices seeks to do a number of things, you know, and you will see them behind me, and I'm not going to read them off the screen, but in essence, digital preservation of recorded cultural heritage. I use the term repatriation advisedly because I think, as Allison has pointed out, repatriation usually refers in the strict sense to actual physical return of ancestors back to native communities. So I use the term sharing or return. Essentially, at the heart of this all is collaboration with Tribal Communities and respectful and a presentation of their heritage. And the other thing that we seek to also do with this, simply because the library being a standard bearer for developing a technical innovation and collaboration, we see this as an opportunity to rescue archaic and obsolete materials and make them available and useful again to the present day. So the thing that I will mention here is that the pilot project, which officially launched in 2015, centered on the oldest field recordings in AFC, which were Jesse Walter Fewkes as cylinder recordings of Passamaquoddy people that he made in 1890. Fewkes visited Maine sort of on a drive by, if you will, in order to test out the new fangled Edison phonograph and recorded a few dozen cylinders of songs, about 36 of them, to be exact. He recorded vocabulary folktales, other cultural expressions. 31 of those original 36 survived and were housed at Harvard's Peabody Museum until they were donated to the library in the late 1970s as part of the Federal Cylinder Project Initiative. Now here's Fewkes in a drawing [inaudible]. This is a picture I got of it when I visited back there in 2016, 2017 on a site visit, and he is remembered in various ways by Passamaquoddy people. And his memory becomes stronger now that we've, now that the recordings are back in their hands again. One of the things I will mention to you, as I said earlier, that we are very keen on understanding how the library's various digital tools and other materials that we've developed over the course of time continue to work with can be used to recover voices from an obsolete materials. So AV utilizes cutting edge digital technologies and innovative approaches to address issues in preservation, co-curation, cultural representation and intellectual acts  that are of concern for both in American communities and repositories. So notice if you will hear our colleagues at the NAVCC, Rob Cristrella, the top picture, and then Brian Hoffa working with both analog instruments to recover a sound from the wax cylinders and then using digital restoration tools to enhance and restore them. And Brad McCoy has also been part of that process, as is Rob Frederick at NAVCC. And without their help, none of this would have would have happened. The recordings, once they are digitized, are then used both in the library's online presentation site and also by the Passamaquoddy community. Sessions to decipher a language, transcribe songs, and then put them back in circulation in the community. And one of the things I'll notice here is an instance of Mukurtu CMS that John referred to earlier has been established in the community in Pleasant Point, Maine, and enables Passamaquoddy to take the Fewkes recordings from the library and independently maintain their own digital repository, create catalog records that are populated with culturally informed descriptions of the contents of the recording, and subsequently to provide that information to the center so that community generated descriptions are then used in the library's records in the online portal. And I'll show you what that looks like in just a minute. Talking about how digital platforms are fundamentally reshaping the way we can restore our formats and provide access in ways that were not imagined back in the early days of ethnographic field recording. A fundamental point I want to emphasize is that the base of any project that works with Indigenous communities or perhaps even any community of origin, is a fundamental importance of establishing respectful, ethical relationships. There will always be some new and dazzling software program or digital capture tool or some other beautiful platform. But without paying attention to mutuality and collaboration, all that non-native repositories will have done is to reproduce colonizer, colonized hierarchies. And I want to emphasize that because of the fact that here are two of us that separated in time and space. The first is Dorothy Sara Lee nearly 40 years ago visiting the Dennis Hastings with one of the early projects that we did from the Federal Cylinder Project with Omaha Community Nebraska and more recently Jane Anderson from local context and NYU talking to Donald Soctomah the Passamaquoddy Tribal Historic Preservation Officer on the occasion of the first site visit, when we were establishing this collegial relationship with the Passamaquoddy. Excuse me. In the case of Ancestral Voices as I noted earlier, the initiative rests on the collaborative partnership and, you know, an understanding of how these partnerships can fundamentally affect the way that we curate, safeguard and provide access to the collections we hold emerges for others in the center every day. The worlds of knowledge and understandings of Indigenous cultural history that are surfaced through such initiatives can be quite profound for both repository and community. And this an example I want to talk to you a little bit about. Take, for instance, what happened when Passamaquoddy members were brought into the process of developing the script descriptive metadata for the Fewkes recording. This particular slide shows you the extant record and the print volume of the Federal Cylinder Project. If you'll notice, it only says Unidentified Song and it only and it doesn't give a title and speculates that one of the two singers who performed this particular song, were either Peter Selmore or Noel Josephs, these are the main sort of people that Fewkes was recording during his sojourn in Maine. So that was before and this is after. And if you'll notice, I hope you can see it on the screen. There's a summary now. And so this has become this has been given a title by Passamaquoddy people subsequent to their listening to the songs that we had provided them. And one of the things that you'll notice is that they've now identified a third man, Peter Lacoot, as the singer of this particular song. One of the things that when we had the restored version, the digitized version made available to the AFC and also to the community, the clarity of the work was such that AFC Cataloger Kelly Revak, who was listening to the songs, determined that the singer was actually Peter Lacoot, not Peter Selmore or Noel Josephs. With this piece of information, Passamaquoddy community members transcribed the song and came up with an alternative recounting of it and wrote Peter Lacoot into history, right? And the amazing thing, that's all amazing, a lot of amazing things going on here was that one of the people who was involved in translating the song was Molly Neptune Parker, who's a direct descendant of Peter Lacoot. And another instance of how Ancestral Voices and similar initiatives change the notion of a provenance, as that is a use of the Traditional Knowledge labels that I'm going to show you here. You saw that in the previous screen. And these Traditional Knowledge attribution labels are developed, as I mentioned, by local contexts. And there are a series of them that NA communities, Native American communities, can attach to the cultural heritage items in the online settlement, and the online environment. And they're quite important initiative because when they're applied to the recordings it represents to the world outside that Passamaquoddy people are asserting their protocols for naming and sharing true heritage with the National Library and the wider world. So these are all important aspects of this particular initiative and Ancestral Voices has been working with Passamaquoddy for a while. We are on the verge, hopefully, of moving ahead with other communities who have been developing, you know, metadata and catalog records for their own collections. And we hope to engage with them in the coming year to see if yet another community's recordings can be made available and accessible in this particular platform. So let me, as I show you the Ancestral Voices series of tags that might be used, I want to leave you finally with this moment. The final words I think should not be mine. But those of our Passamaquoddy colleagues, in particular, Dwayne Tomah,  who's going to be singing here in a second, and Donald Suctomah, who's a Tribal Historic Preservation Officer. And they'll give you a very profound insight into one way in which ethical, respectful stewardship and care of raw materials can generate some particular bits of magic. And I'm going to stop sharing now and let me see if I can find it for you.\n\nGuha Shankar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=2439.0,3376.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sorry about that. It's taking its own sweet time. Well. Goodness gracious. \n\nSpeaker 4","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3376.0,3410.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Singing] \n\nDonald Suctomah","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3410.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, you might not believe this, but that's the first time that's been sung in public in 128 years. It's the war song by Peter Lacoot. \n\nGuha Shankar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3510.0,3529.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That does it for me. Thank you very much. \n\nYuri Shimoda","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3529.0,3535.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you so much, Guha and everyone. \n\nDan Hockstein","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3535.0,3539.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Thanks so much. So just to check in, since we're at the hour and we're going to do a short structured panel discussion just to sort of connect the dots here. And then at about 10 to 15 minutes after the hour, we'll open things up to audience Q\u0026A and wrap around 2:30. So I'm just checking, but I'll pass it on to Yuri to kick out our sort of panel discussion off. \n\nYuri Shimoda","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3539.0,3564.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. So let's take some time to dig a little deeper into the challenges faced in ethnographic sound archives and some of the strategies each of you employ in your work and at your institutions. When working with communities of origin, how is community defined? Who determines who speaks for the community and how is community knowledge integrated into your processes? So we can just go around and whoever wants that answer can contribute. We can start back with Alan and Allison, if you'd like. Unmute yourselves, otherwise you can pass it on to John or Tami. \n\nAlan Burdette","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3564.0,3616.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll pass this on to John or Tami, just to say very briefly we don't have an involved process for determining who has the authority we're kind of depending on, whatever official designation we can determine from those communities and given our staffing we simply don't have the capacity to do a lot of engagement and digging deeper into those issues. So I'll leave it at that. But I know that John and others can say more about this. \n\nJohn Vallier","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3616.0,3657.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I think what I have to say is pretty much very similar, Alan. It's hard, right? I find myself throwing around the term community a lot and about a month ago I was doing a presentation with an American Indian studies class here. And I use the term kind of just, you know, speaking about community. And somebody kind of called me on that and said, What do you mean by community? And I think that's a really, I appreciated that because it becomes kind of a buzz word and it kind of masks or covers like how complex it is to deal with people. Right. And when we speak of communities, sometimes, unfortunately, I think it has kind of it just generifize or makes things kind of generic. And, you know, there's differences of opinion in as we know it in this country and in anywhere, there's going to be people who have different kinds of beliefs and understandings and so I'm trying to catch myself more and more and not just use that term willy nilly, but in terms of reaching out to people. I mean, I really depend, for example, on Tami and like what she has to say about how important the recordings are to her work. And, you know, as I presented earlier with Charlotte Heth, with the Cherokee recordings, I really relied on her. I'm an outsider. I will do whatever I can to support them. Once again, just like Alan was saying. I mean, we're just severely funded. My position's being cut here and so it's just it's kind of you know, we have a lot of work to do and unfortunately, we can't dive as deep into these kind of answers as we like to sometimes. \n\nTami Hohn","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3657.0,3763.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll just add just a little bit here. Some of the content when we're talking about recordings that is so important to discover is whether these recordings are sacred information or this cultural information that really sits and belongs with the Tribe and some Tribes do not want ceremonial type songs out there for everybody to just utilize. I know recently here at UW there was a song shared because the access, when somebody donates their materials to special collections, they set what type of restrictions there is. So if it's open to the public and it's dictated by the person who donated it, then, you know, the songs are shared if there's a request for it. Well, the and I think I'm right, that song was played as background music somewhere. And a person from the Lummi tribe where that song came from heard it and it didn't sit well with them and they requested that that be removed. Well, when they requested about the song they said, well, they obtained it from the University of Washington and so those conversations started taking place that this is our traditional music and that should be not be shared with other people because this is sacred to us. And I think that's an important conversation to have. And we really need to look at the content of what is in the recordings. Willard Rhodes recorded so many songs that were sung by people of other people's songs, and these are ceremonial songs. These are not ceremonial, but spiritual songs. They're personal songs to people. And they were sung and recorded and then distributed. How do you dictate access to that? I mean, who has a say so the person who sung it or the person who they said the song belongs to? In my eyes, it should be the person's song, not the person who sung it. Because when we joined together in the winter time for our winter dances and ceremonies, we sing everybody's songs together. And so we learn other people's personal songs. But what we do with it is our responsibility. It's our responsibility to be respectful to each other. And so we have to then have these conversations with people who may not be aware of the background to these songs, but build an understanding and a good communication with the Tribes that say, \"Hey, what's going on here?\"\n\nAlan Burdette","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3763.0,3936.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nAllison McClanahan","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3936.0,3936.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We struggle with, we deal with that at the ATM, the Arhives of Traditional Music too. These collections were deposited by a collector, and they say, you know, anyone can listen to it. Open research, and we've adopted a policy. But regardless of what the collector might have said is permissible access for them and their opinions, if it's Indigenous, we default to contacting the appropriate Tribal authority, whether that's the TIPO or that's the cultural division head or whatever it is for that community. \n\nGuha Shankar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3936.0,3982.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Ditto to all of that. And, you know, it's a complicated set of circumstances. And maybe I would deflect attention away from the notion of who defines a community as to who has authority or responsibility. You know, according to what Tami was saying, because, you know, it may be the case that you have the overall governing structure, but then there are religious societies whose particular responsibility of this is to steward the songs. There may be family members or the family of the people, of the person who sang the song. In the case of historic recordings, who also have a claim on their ancestors, on the revered elders, you know, materials, and every one of them can't be, you know, figured out by delving into the BA handbooks or something like that and trying to figure out what the anthropologists said about, you know, who has line of responsibility. Every one of those occasions is an opportunity to establish a relationship. And I think that's one of the things that I keep reiterating, is that whatever else we may have in our arsenal, whether it's software, whether it's resources, whether it's something else, the one thing that we absolutely need to make sure that we have time for is to establish deep interpersonal relationships with communities of origin. And, you know, and that may complicate matters. You may, wondering down all kinds of kinship and responsibilities and roles, you know, all those protocols, but that knowledge is important, useful and that must be on your sort of radar from the very beginning of initiating any kind of project which involves Indigenous communities or I would say for perhaps even any community of origin. Thank you. \n\nDan Hockstein","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=3982.0,4097.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think this sort of that answer, I think, dovetails into the next question we were going to posit, which is, you know, we think of these things as collections, but they're also places and they're also sort of digital collections. And anyone wants to speak on how archives or ethnographic sound collections can become more welcoming spaces in the sort of analog or physical domain or digitally in which community members can engage with materials. How can we promote confidence and sort of include them as donors, contributors and partners in material stewardship? \n\nAllison McClanahan","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4097.0,4137.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think the first step is making sure that it's described and discoverable by communities of origin. And there's a lot that goes into that and that also ties into redescription. For me, I'm in charge of cataloging at the ATM and these descriptions might have outdated terminology or names or, you know. So sometimes that's just wrong. And it kind of just comes from whatever documentation we have available from the collector. And so what I try to do when I'm working with members who are within the community of origin, when I'm doing reference, when they come to the ATM to work with material, I always try to tell them upfront like these descriptions are legacy, there's probably going to be something in there that's problematic or wrong. Please let me know about what you find. And I benefit from kind of being the Head of Technical Services here at the ATM and in charge of reference as well. So when they do tell me like, \"Hey, this name is wrong or Hey, this isn't even the right Tribe because it's in the wrong place\", I can go into the catalog record in real time and change it and refresh the system and turnaround the computer screen to show them in real time. Yes, I've changed it, and I think that's a positive step forward in empowering these individuals to know that I'm serious. We're serious about doing something and trying to better our description as much as we're able. \n\nTami Hohn","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4137.0,4259.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think as a as a researcher myself for language, when I find that there is language somewhere being held, I would like to request it and actually obtain it so that I can use it for studies, not just have a listening time by the table, but I actually need it in my work. I spend a lot of time cross-referencing language to validate the recordings are the most important piece because this is our authentic way of speaking. I can read documents and I can see the way these people are documenting in our language in documents, but it doesn't necessarily tell us how to speak it or how they meant for it to be written in relation to the speaking. Some of them are easier than others, and some of them are documented quite terribly. It takes a lot of work to extract language. I actually hold a second year course just on language extraction, where I teach my students how to analyze documents, extract the language, create a language listing for revitalizing that language and also recordings. I had a student last year who found out that his great great grandmother is Susie Sampson Peter, who was recorded by I think Tom Hess or Metcalf, think it could have been Metcalf. And now he gets to listen to her speaking the language and he feels so fulfilled by that. It's just a really special thing for him to have. But actually have these recordings as something that also is something that I want to know in advance. Before I go to an institution, I want to know, can I obtain this recording or am I going to be restricted? And I can tell you in my Tribe, we have this old book, it's called The Puyallup Nisqually by Marian Smith. Marian Smith. And it was published in 1940. Very old information about the whole cultural ways of our people in connection with Nisqually. And we had an elder working in our Historic Preservation Department in Puyallup. And she was looking for the field notes because every researcher before you can create a book, you're researching all this information. So she wanted all to have access to this background information that led to the book. And because not everything is always included in books. So there's always information and field notes. She requested in, I don't know if it was the University of Victoria, but she was told that she cannot access anything because she was not a student. Even though this is Puyallup information, she was denied access. But they said you can contact London, the archives and ask them for permission and then if they provide permission, we will share to you. And they said in London, they said, you can't have it all, but we'll let you have this, this, this and this. So they gave a list of what she could have and everything else was denied. That there, is a denial of our own Traditional Knowledge to our people. And it was very offputting and it hurt, it hurt her, her staff and, you know, it's a hardship when that happens. \n\nYuri Shimoda","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4259.0,4490.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Guha did you want to add anything?\n\nGuha Shankar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4490.0,4493.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can scarcely improve on what Tami said and what Allison said. Yeah, one hopes, I think going back to a point that Alan made about the difference between stewardship and other forms of, I don't know, control. I think archivists and librarians basically need to drop our function, written or unwritten as gatekeepers. It actually does more harm than good. You know, I mean, I've heard instances and I won't presume to say which institution has done this but they have actually worked with their general counsel's office in order to lift restrictions on these 75 year restricted collections, because the collector had given his materials which contain oral histories, place names, and then said that we need to put a restriction on it for the life of in 75 years after I passed away or 75 years after the community members passed away, and it turned out that those materials were fundamental, were going to be instrumental in those communities, Indigenous communities, land claims. So the museum or cultural repository made a concerted effort to make sure that those restrictions by the donor could be lifted legally. And so that the community, which was afterall where he, were the person to do their work, could have benefit of that knowledge. I mean, along the lines of, you know, sort of in it maybe a little bit off the point of what Tami is saying but again and again, I think that's what you know, perhaps, not perhaps that's what I think archival repositories need to do is to clear the way for access to these materials and not keep putting yet more and more barriers in. And I'm not sure what else it's an either or. It's it's not there's no in between, as far as I'm concerned, in those kinds of scenarios. So there you go. \n\nYuri Shimoda","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4493.0,4612.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. I think we'll move into the questions submitted from our attendees with kind of a related query that's kind of on the opposite side of things. So let me pose it. What advice, insights do presenters from predominantly White higher ed institutions have for working with an administration that doesn't fully support repatriation or are reticent to limit access to sacred or secret materials, since their view of libraries and archives is very Western and focused on ensuring access for all. UW or IU folks, do you have anything to share? \n\nAllison McClanahan","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4612.0,4667.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm fortunate to say that I don't think we've actually come across any administration that is fought us on our access protocol. I think we're able to explain why our policies and procedures are in place to safeguard cultural knowledge and be ethical and responsible stewards for these recordings. I've been in this position since 2017 and I've never had an administrator try and push back on. \n\nTami Hohn","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4667.0,4707.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Currently we have a linguist, a linguistic student, who is now entering this Ph.D. program, and he wants to, he's been studying one of the First language speakers of Lutshootseed and what he hopes to do is to have access online of her language, being on a website of her recordings and the Department or the dissertation committee is requiring him to seek permission from the family of the First Language speaker. And it's really interesting. I'm looking at this as kind of like a study here is like how is this going to play out? I have helped him to provide him with contact information of people that I know are related to and family members of this person. And he's made attempts and he hasn't been successful with obtaining permission yet. Some of them just avoid talking to them, to him. Some of them actually set up meetings, but then they cancel. But he's having a really hard time, and part of me feels bad for him. But part of me is like, well, this is a whole new process that's happening and let's see how it works out. \n\nJohn Vallier","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4707.0,4801.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can chime in a little bit, but I have to be careful because I'm being recorded. But there are some challenges in institutions. You know, I was a little hesitant, actually, to include our land acknowledgment at the beginning, not because I don't believe in it and, you know, other land acknowledgments, but sometimes I feel like it's a little bit, I'm just talking from my own experience. Like budgets don't follow. Let me just say. And I feel like if we're really interested in doing this kind of work and acknowledging the land and these people, then we need to start, you know, dedicating some funding towards our institutions, which are already kind of, you know, as I said, suffering as as archives do. But really, if we want to do this important work, as Guha is saying and others, you know, it's really, it's about relationships and it takes time to develop rapport and build trust, especially given some of the some of the histories our institutions have had with these communities. Sorry again for using that word again. But these people. So, so anyway, that's point enough. I'll just say it's an ongoing struggle and if anyone has any solution, please, please let me know. \n\nDan Hockstein","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4801.0,4886.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm sorry, go ahead. Okay. We can move on to a question about descriptive. We had a few pre submitted questions come in that referred to alternative methods of description and access. So are there controlled vocabularies that are being used for, that are alternatives to LCSH or Library of Congress Subject Headings? If so, how do you sort of choose things? How do you select how things are being described? Can anyone speak to efforts regarding that?  \n\nGuha Shankar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4886.0,4941.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know about institutions, but in the Mukurtu platform, the descriptive  terminology is not reliant on Library Congress Subject Headings. As a matter of fact, communities themselves find the broad buckets under which they wish to have materials described and obviously in the content management system, you can have both audio visual recordings, movies, films, photographs and so on, but also representations of three dimensional objects, right? So you can have photographs of basketry or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4941.0,4975.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"duck egg bags and so on, and all of that is reliant on communities, a specific community, not a general kind of generic Native American, one size fits all thing, but very specifically, as in Tami's case, whether it's Muckelshoot or whether it's Nez Perce or somebody else, they get to decide the terminology that they wish to use in order to make their materials accessible. So the question then, if you're working in concert with them as an institutional repository, how then do you stay true to the intent of the community in terms of how they wish to have themselves being described, and I guess the term of the day is how do they see themselves in the collections and how do you make sure that their vision about who they are is represented in the institutional record? And that's an interesting question, the way in which my colleague Matt Smith is out there in the audience, he might be able to speak to this a bit more perhaps, but one of the ways in which we've done it is to insert into the notes field the culturally informed narratives that are produced by Indigenous communities to describe their cultural heritage materials, right? So you can see the juxtaposition of the great White collector Jesse Walter Fewkes and the subsequent kind of work that was done on it in clear distinction and in contrast with the way in which the community sees fit to describe themselves. Is that workable or is that a solution for everybody? Not sure. You know, we can only do this one thing at one, we take it one step at a time, would take it as a communities that we're working with, guide us in this matter. And to the extent to which this can work in other sort of rounds would be an interesting thing. I'm very curious to know what happens. Some folks on the call whose names I saw are part of the Doris Duke Oral History Initiative, which comes out of the Association of Tribal Archives, Libraries and Museums in which Mukurtu is again being used as a kind of a bit bucket in which communities from across over 150 communities are going to be weighing in on how their materials are described and what the terminology that's going to be employed to describe their cultural heritage materials is going to be used. And that's an intersection between Native communities and then institutions of higher education. So there's no there's no solution if we want that. It's all emergent, as is all cultural process is emergent. And we stand in a kind of a very distinct, distinctly different relationship to our collections and the communities of collections they are, than we did 10, 15, 20 years ago. That's the long, that's how I see it anyway. So thank you. \n\nYuri Shimoda","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=4975.0,5144.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think we'll ponder a final question, and this one focuses more on technology. Will you discuss ways to protect and store songs and language on cassette tapes? 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We can only speak for how we do things. We do have access copies on cassette, open reel tape, CD that were made in the past for patrons of various kinds and of course, materials on those formats that were sent to Tribal libraries in decades past, prior to having digital materials. But in house, we approach access to those like we do digital materials, in that a patron needs to demonstrate some kind of official approval from that Tribal organization and First Nations group, what have you, in order to get access to it. On the digital front, at least in terms of protecting it, it's the same scenario. But in terms of the formats, things that have been digitally preserved, there are preservation masters that are uncompressed WAV files that are stored in a secure system. Access files are mp4s that we distribute again with appropriate permissions. 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So I just wanted to say thanks so much to all of our guest speakers, especially John Vallier, who brought the group together, the ARSC Board, Executive Director Nathan Georgiadis and Webinar Series promoter Joaquin Perez, Social Media Editor Jennifer Vaughn, Aviary Site Editor Miyuki Meyer and NRPB and CLIR. \n\nYuri Shimoda","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=5439.0,5467.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we did want to mention that our next webinar will be in the spring. Please stay tuned for details on this and future webinars at our website, which I'll put in the chat and it might get lost everyone saying thank you. 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Just a side note, there is a engagement session on the Native Language Resource Center starting at noon if you had that on your radar, it starts at noon. \n\nDan Hockstein","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796#t=5541.0,5558.0"},{"id":"https://arsc.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1249/collection_resources/84453/file/172796/transcript/42226/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Also we had just, as folks bow out, I think it seemed like there were a few questions in the chat regarding specific collections or specific things. It seems like, you know, it'd be great idea to get in touch with any of these folks for more information on that. All right. 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